Curse

Talesin Darkbriar · Jun 13, 2005, 11:07 PM // 23:07

Game violations

How does a player who enjoys Guild Wars, distance himself from those who do not, and seek to actively destroy the game for those around them? We call this "griefing" in the old school.

Aye, we can always write a nice letter to GW at: http://support.guildwars.com , but what about when you see someone so offensive in the game that immediate action is required?

Is it cost-prohibitive to consider an ingame customer service rep?
My understanding is that offenders must be caught in the act - otherwise people would simply report anyone they didn't like or agree with.

I'm an old veteran of online games; I know bannable behavior when I observe it, and it's rampant in GW.

Name abuse
Ok, so the name filter in Guild Wars is. . . lacking?
I prefer nonexistent.
I expect to see idiot names in pre-earing Ascalon, but after the ascension?
COME ON ALREADY!!!

Examples of slimy names?

Engulf Mynuts
Slippery wet puzzy
and many variations of the same.
Let's not forget the ever popular reversed expletive - that is very common.
Racial epithets are also popular as well.
These are all instant and permanent banning situations in any other game.
Why not here?

Are they funny? some may think perhaps.
Appropriate? Absolutely Not.
Children also play this game.

Role-playing, or just plain scum?
Likewise, I can easily tolerate those who want to dance in their undies, or scream goofy idiot statements in the various towns; but it becomes inapproapriate when the only method of speech is stringing together 4-letter words in an unending stream.
Ok, you failed the mission, again. Ok, your party screwed you out of all the loot you demanded; fine. Get over it - take a break from the game. Don't stand there like a moron screaming profanity in the town square.
Again, the ability to simply call to an ingame customer service rep would do wonders.

In summary, there's a "core" of immature players who go from one game to the next, getting banned as they do so - its the same people over and over.
Any time a new title is released, they flock to it until they are again banned.
They are here, now.
Please assist them in their journey onwards - and out of Guild Wars..

Best regards,

Talesin

Perishiko ReLLiK · Jun 13, 2005, 11:17 PM // 23:17

Alright, anet is Dead serious about violations... i got my reply from them within 2 hours, and then the comfirmation in another hour...

Just take a screenshot, and go to guild wars web site support, and submit the screenshot(press print screen to get one), remember the time it happened, and where it happened... write that in there, and you'll get a direct response, and well... it works.

I have already posted that i was going to crack down on violations, cause i myself read part of the terms of agreement, and well... you have to accept them in order to play... if you don't abide by their rules, you get Terminated.

They may not have people getting payed to babysit in the game... but there are enough to notice some things... it's a very large game, and not paying monthly just means less people to crack down on such things... but the thing is, the community(us) can help, and make it a better gaming community by submiting all violations, of course this takes a bit of time and effort on our half, but it's not much...

Talesin Darkbriar · Jun 13, 2005, 11:22 PM // 23:22

Thanks Perishiko - I have already reported those above, and will be reporting others as I come across them.
If you're a violator and you read this, you don't want me to find you in the game.
Fair warning.

Tal

ManadartheHealer · Jun 13, 2005, 11:23 PM // 23:23

I should report some things I have taken screenies of (like people advertising bots, cheats, etc.), but they were taken awhile back...

Phaedrus · Jun 14, 2005, 12:18 AM // 00:18

I reported someone for spamming racist rhetoric despite being asked to stop. I got my reply within ten minutes.

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Stev0 · Jun 14, 2005, 12:40 AM // 00:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perishiko ReLLiK

Alright, anet is Dead serious about violations... i got my reply from them within 2 hours, and then the comfirmation in another hour...

Just take a screenshot, and go to guild wars web site support, and submit the screenshot(press print screen to get one), remember the time it happened, and where it happened... write that in there, and you'll get a direct response, and well... it works.

I gotta call bulls**t on this one. I send a screen cap to these guys and it came back saying I sent them a virus. Which in itself is BS. I then upped the screen shot to a host and pasted a link only for them to tell me the matter has already been closed with no result.

DON'T think that support is going to give you serious attention other than the cookie cutter automated response.

PieXags · Jun 14, 2005, 12:47 AM // 00:47

They will, by all means they will. You didn't give them an automated email in the first place did you?

Anyways, I personally only report names that I am offended by. I don't find them often. Sometimes I just make up names like that, add them to my friends list and see if it's actually a person. Then I go party with them if I can.

Then I report them.

Phaedrus · Jun 14, 2005, 12:50 AM // 00:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stev0

I gotta call bulls**t on this one. I send a screen cap to these guys and it came back saying I sent them a virus. Which in itself is BS. I then upped the screen shot to a host and pasted a link only for them to tell me the matter has already been closed with no result.

Sounds more like your problem than theirs.

I've never had a bad experience with NCSoft's support.

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Perishiko ReLLiK · Jun 14, 2005, 04:25 AM // 04:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stev0

I gotta call bulls**t on this one. I send a screen cap to these guys and it came back saying I sent them a virus. Which in itself is BS. I then upped the screen shot to a host and pasted a link only for them to tell me the matter has already been closed with no result.

DON'T think that support is going to give you serious attention other than the cookie cutter automated response.

Well, i lay my hand down, because i saw the guy posting in here, all pissed about getting banned. I win.

I think somewhere in the forum rules it says not to state names, and well... i follow those rules...

I've only reported two people, one was a racist, and the other was spamming in un-believable amounts (Non stop down the whole screen... don't know how he did it)... but anyhow, i normaly warn people that im going to report them... and if they continue to act ****y(koky *no harm done*), and think i'm bluffing, ill show them i'm not, as they abruptly get a nice "Your account is no longer in service" sign up.

Racthoh · Jun 14, 2005, 05:05 AM // 05:05

I agree with what you said, and the problem is a lot of games face these problems. And I'm sure everyday they're probably getting complaints about someone who said/did something that got them really mad. Problem is they probably can't respond to all of them fast enough which sucks altogether.

Quite frankly, after a hard day at college, I don't want to sign in and listen to all of their crap. Oh no, I charged the guys too early and now we're dead, you lost 15 minutes of your life playing a damn game. Does your virtual status mean that much to you? These people that act like it's the end of the world really need to get out of their basements and see the light of day.

The thing that bugged me the most was a guy calling me a noob because I didn't use Teamspeak or Ventrillo or whatever they're called. That I don't deserve to win, and that I should just quit trying right now.

Perishiko ReLLiK · Jun 14, 2005, 05:10 AM // 05:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racthoh

I agree with what you said, and the problem is a lot of games face these problems. And I'm sure everyday they're probably getting complaints about someone who said/did something that got them really mad. Problem is they probably can't respond to all of them fast enough which sucks altogether.

Quite frankly, after a hard day at college, I don't want to sign in and listen to all of their crap. Oh no, I charged the guys too early and now we're dead, you lost 15 minutes of your life playing a damn game. Does your virtual status mean that much to you? These people that act like it's the end of the world really need to get out of their basements and see the light of day.

The thing that bugged me the most was a guy calling me a noob because I didn't use Teamspeak or Ventrillo or whatever they're called. That I don't deserve to win, and that I should just quit trying right now.

/Completely-Agree

I've actually downloaded both vent/ts... ive used my mic that i have, maybe a few times, with my guild (the whole 6-7 avg of us)... lots of the time i just get on to appease them, and then i mute all the annoying screechy voices/breathing sounds... those really get on my nerves...

DrSLUGFly · Jun 14, 2005, 06:32 AM // 06:32

I"ve read a lot of good things about Anet's responsive nature. /cheer. Myself, in the last week or two I've not noticed ANYBODY playing the fool, except for trade spammers. Perhaps I've been lucky... perhaps it's just the difference between Europe and American servers... or perhaps it's not so common.

Either way, I agree fully. When someone is being abusive with no need, they should be reported. Why should we sacrifice our fun so that some prepubescent kid (even the ones in their 20's and 30's are still mentally prepubescent kids) can make himself better by belittling others?

Rhunex · Jun 14, 2005, 09:10 AM // 09:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racthoh

These people that act like it's the end of the world really need to get out of their basements and see the light of day.

If they got out into the light of day their albino skin would burn...they need to slowly adjust to such a dramatic change in their lifestyle.

Anyways, I agree with this post...something needs to be fixed so forums everywhere don't have disatisfied customers everywhere ranting that they will report all the inappropriate names they see, I'm not meaning to flame the idea sarcastically, if that's what it sounds like... I just want a name filter that's decent. One that blocks strings of words, even when spaced, or tied in with another word, or if the !@#$%^&*() symbols are used, etc.

DrSLUGFly · Jun 14, 2005, 09:21 AM // 09:21

on a seperate thought (and playing the devils advocate) I find the name Engulf Mynuts very amusing. It's not at all clever since all it's doing is just putting the words together... but the word engulf, I don't know how to describe it. It's just so... dramatic...

EchoSex · Jun 14, 2005, 12:02 PM // 12:02

*Huffs out of breath* I wanted... To catch... This thread... Before it left behind thousands of others... *TAkes a deep breath and sits* Okay- I've played a good amount of MMOs and there has ALWAYS been the 12 year old reject who was an immature butthead. Crappy wise-crack names, cheating, ganking, hoarding, you name it, they've done it. But with my last MMO there was a way to deal with it. Mainly with -sweet pure vengance-. In AO we had a system called the ARKs, or Advisors of Rubi-Ka (Rubi-ka is the planet you play on). These folks were voluntiers that would help out newer players, stop disputes, and kick and ban abusers of the system. These guys were ussaly great in helping you out with a dispute, but sometimes, because of the war between two factions, they were a bit biased. I don't tihnk we'd have that kinda crap here though if it was enfourced. Theres only really one faction- unless you count Guilds or Countries. I guess a reward system would be needed to help with any kind of.. Admin(?) to help in GW, but I'm sure alot of people would help out anyways. Oh, and most of the guys who worked on D2 worked on GW, and if they have the same kind of wrath as Blizard, we won't have many abusers in the future. Bliz went on a banning spree and has remained a vicious booting machine since then. But maybe thats a good thing :3

Massassi · Jun 14, 2005, 02:40 PM // 14:40

I'm all for cracking down on the immature but I'm not too keen on the name filter. currently my highest lvl main and best loved Char is my N/Mo Massassi Mahrb (pronounces Maw-saw-see Meh-rb) and though there is absolutly nothing offensive about my name an unthinking computer wouldn't agree. At this point I feel as if I were supposed to say more but I have nothing more to say....*cough*

Talesin Darkbriar · Jun 14, 2005, 05:08 PM // 17:08

Well, I have begun reporting obvious violators, and the GW response (unlike Stevo's missive) was immediate and positive.
I received letters from 2 GMs, who stated while they will not confirm action for me, they would look into it immediately - and the two I reported are GONE.
/applauds GW staff.

Now I'm no ogre, I don't care if you call yourself Gandalf, Legolas, or Twinkie the creampuff, (there IS a Kmart security out there..jeez..) But any obviously offensive name is going to be taken to task if I see it.

Best regards all!

Talesin

Kuku Monk · Jun 14, 2005, 05:35 PM // 17:35

It pays to mainly solo! I rarely pay attention to people's names or the jibber jabber going on in the towns. I don't think it's Anet's responsibility to police society's disfunctions, but that's just me. Is it really that hard to turn the chat off, ignore a person, or stop reading people's names?

GoblinBoy · Jun 14, 2005, 07:59 PM // 19:59

When I first started playing the game, the day of it's public release. I noticed that mostly all of the people playing the game seemed to be true players. Everybody I talked to was friendly and willing to help or answers question's. Recently in the last month or so there has been a definite decline in the quality of players. People spamming, trading outside the trade window, cursing and basically degrading other player. Which unfortunately has caused me to turn the chat system off completly.
Cause basically all that seems to roll up the screen is garbage. Sadly, I take great offense to this, because it ruins my game personally. Kudos to the people that are reporting rude and offensive players and getting them banned. It is only what they deserve. And I totally agree about that "there are also children playing the game"
They also have a right not to be offended.

Crystal NightingGale · Jun 14, 2005, 08:39 PM // 20:39

The most important issue is that there are children playing this game. It really annoys me when I see people in districts behaving inappropriately. I hope ANet can do something about the minimap. Sometimes when I quest or do a mission with a group, someone always draws a swastika on the minimap. And the worst part is that you can't report the person because you don't know who is doing it.

I have something in common with Kuku Monk is that I don't really pay attention to people's names except if it is something real offensive, then it'll catch my eye.